douglas sky g vs scott radian

The best rods will throw very tight loops at this range with consistent accuracy, and will feel totally solid with the line tracking precisely. But that alone doesn’t make our fly rods exceptional. The rod is finished in a flat dark gray, with similar dark gray guide wraps. Rods are repaired, not replaced. As a starter rod, the Aetos is hard to beat! But this also requires an angler to double-haul well and form good, tight back cast loops. He has been a very important and integral part of our Shootouts and tackle comparisons over the years. The wraps are a darker red, almost black, trimmed with some bright red on the butt section. However i cant find any fly shops that carry either of them. On the new NRX+ LP, Steve applied what G. Loomis calls Multi-Taper Design, a manufacturing process that removes material from areas where a rod is least likely to break, and adds material to prevent breakage where it’s most likely to happen. If you plan on fishing large Steelhead rivers where 90' to 120' casts are the norm, a 14' to 15' rod is the weapon of choice. The best ones work very well for nymph fishing and have the power to cast even small sized streamers. Everything you need to livestream. To make it easier to examine each rod we have used different colors with a chart below each deflection board. If only the tip breaks in an accident, the repair and handling fee is $35 including shipping. We debated on whether to use the newer Winston Pure or the Air in our presentation rod category, but in casting the two rods, we felt that the Air gave us slightly better performance. Sometimes the whole rod is replaced. This is an absolutely gorgeous rod, and along with the T&T rods, the Winston rods get a perfect score for craftsmanship. This is more or less cut and dried, but some rods, like the G. Loomis Asquith have the blanks rolled in Japan and then the rod is completed here in the US at the Loomis plant in Woodland, WA. As part of the Expeditor policy, Loomis includes a FedEx call tag with your new rod so that you don’t have to spend any money to send the broken rod back. UpCountry Sportfishing works to bring you the best used and bargain one of a kind items. Guides start with a hook keeper, then a single SIC stripping guide, followed with black, hard chrome one-foot guides the rest of the way, but not the good flexible ones found on the Zephrus. As fly fisherman, we are always dealing with wind. For under $200, the best rods to consider are the Fenwick Aetos and the Orvis Clearwater. Nearly as good as the LP+ and SKY G. A very pleasant rod to cast, giving me smooth tight loops and excellent accuracy. The T&T Avantt finishes 4th again, with the Orvis Helios 3D right behind it in 5th. A silver anodized double uplocking seat is used. Crowsnest Cafe and Fly Shop is where I got my Douglas Sky 6 wt from, great people to deal with. Scott Radian Rod Review The first thing you notice when you get your hands on the Scott Radian is that this rod is ascetically like nothing else on the market. Leaders are extremely important in obtaining accuracy, particularly ones that will turn over well at short distances with very little fly line in the air, especially at 25 feet. The Loomis rods get a perfect score of 10 for their excellent Expeditor repair program which costs $100, but returns the angler a brand new rod, not a repaired one, in just a few days after you call them. A half wells cork handle is used, like the Zephrus, and feels very comfortable to me. The idea here is to measure the swing weight at the middle of where your palm is likely to sit on the grip. Video management. The guide set is perfect, starting with one of the new CERECOIL stripping guides that use a nickel Titanium frame and a Zerconia ring insert designed so that it cannot come out of the frame, even as the frame flexes. Echo– Lifetime warranty to original owner. Rods with a light swing weight are delightful and effortless to cast. This was ideal for casting, especially at the shorter distances. 5-weight fly rods have become the single quiver rod for many freshwater anglers. If they had cast the rod, I don’t think they would have voted it as the best freshwater rod! To make it easy to judge the turnover and accuracy, we tie on a small fluorescent yarn indicator at the end of the leader that approximates casting a medium size dry fly. For fly lines, we had two on hand, one a standard size Scientific Anglers Amplitude Trout for all the Presentation rods, and then SA’s half size larger line, the Amplitude MPX, both in WF-5-F. For leaders, we again used our own Yellowstone Angler hand-tied 12-foot 4x leaders that utilize a two-foot tippet. Our answer is almost always YES! But the Radian is more of a power 5-weight and you’ll find that it places 2nd in our power rod final results. The Craftsmanship is superb and the wraps and coatings over the wraps are as good as I’ve ever seen on any rods. This is a very pleasant rod for fishing dries, where you are doing a lot of false casting. If you have read our Shootouts in the past, you can skip this part and go straight to the final results and the write-ups on each rod in their finishing order. The new SKY G rods are composed using G-Tec platelets. In fact, when Scott Fly Rods started in the early 70’s, graphite fly rods didn’t even exist. Winston gives us two new rods, the Winston Air and their beefy Alpha+. I do like the faster action and softer tip, but the Air didn’t seem to track as well as the top presentation rods. The best thing about the Air is its appearance and craftsmanship. 5-weight fly rods are the most popular and versatile of all fly rods for freshwater anglers. Then we move on to another distance and compare the same rods. Winston, Sage, Scott, G. Loomis and Orvis. The new Sage LL and the Winston Air were disappointing and finished at the bottom of the pack. The weight hampered the kind of feel I was getting compared with the best rods and the accuracy was nothing to write home about. Loop gives us their new and unusual 7X, a rod built with a seven-sided, heptagonal blank for increased durability and performance. Broken sections are replaced. The butt and mid-sections flex pretty much the same with slight differences in stiffness. The Shadow seems like it is running out of gas at this distance. A little waggle helps you to feel this. Give your viewers the best quality across devices, even with limited bandwidth. Both placed close to the top in each category. The G. Loomis NRX LP 9’#5 has had a stranglehold on first place in our past three 5-weight Shootouts, but now this rod is gone, replaced with the NRX+ LP, a totally new rod with new materials and a new design that has proven to be outstanding. I’ve been in the fly-fishing business now for over fifty years, as a guide, fly shop manager and finally owner. We were particularly interested to see how this new SKY G would compare to the re-designed Loomis NRX+ LP. Definitely one of the best Presentation Rods at long range, and even better for me than the Helios 3D! I’m not getting quite as much feel as with the SKY G though. This rod’s ability to track perfectly is on fire here. The new SKY G is very quick to dampen and is very sensitive. The cork handle is a half wells design with some fancy cork rings at the bottom. Anglers that are primarily indicator nymph fishing are better off with a slightly longer 5-weight like a 9 ½ or 10 footer, or even jumping up to a 6-weight rod in the same lengths. Lots of people are using 5-weight rods for nymph fishing, often using a strike indicator, along with a combination of two nymphs and possibly some split shot or tungsten putty. $35 handling fee. Beulah has given us a lovely new rod that is incredibly light – the lightest rod in this Shootout in overall weight combined with a very light swing weight. Ones with a heavy swing weight feel clunky in your hand and are not going to be pleasant to cast and fish all day. The Shadow is an attractive rod. The Radian is hand crafted in Montrose CO in a facility that puts out some of the most stunning fly rods on the market. The SKY G was far better in both feel and accuracy. You can evaluate which categories, such as price, are critical to you when selecting a new rod. Next, holding the rod horizontally, we position the grip over the foam pellet so that the pellet is centered under the exact spot where you will most likely hold the rod. The Douglas Sky series is at the pinnacle of fast action, superior performance salt and freshwater fly rods. Good, just not great. Sage and Winston have answered the Scott G Series with the best moderate action rods that either maker has ever designed: the Trout LL and Pure Series.. But having to turn over a 12-foot leader forces a rod to perform at a higher level. This line has a head length of 35 feet and a shorter front taper of 6 feet. I’m impressed at how tight my loops are, giving me great accuracy. The Paradigm is a brand new rod from T&T. One of the more interesting deflection boards shows the previous 5-weight winner – the old G. Loomis NRX LP – along with the new NRX+ LP, as well as the Sky G that is our Presentation Rod winner as well as the NRX+, the Power Rod winner. High-modulus blanks deliver strength and modern actions that are sure to add precision and grace your presentation skills. These will be located under my comments on each rod. The rings are easy to grip and lock up securely. Yes, the very best craftsmanship is still found in rods built here in the US, but the best Korean built rods now rival what is produced here in the US. Better at mid-range but still not that great. We loved the old NRX LP with its softer tip and upper mid-section; the deflection pattern of the new Douglas Sky G is very similar. 2. On nice days when had little wind, we did the casting outside on our lawn here at the shop. Of the Helios 3 rods, this 3F (F standing for finesse) has a softer tip and is more suited to accurate, delicate presentations we are looking for in the presentation rods. The 3F performed extremely well, especially at the two longer distances. We gave perfect scores of 10 to the R.L Winston rods, the Thomas and Thomas rods and the Loomis Asquith. I think the medium-fast action and softer tip are just about perfect. Still pretty good and better than all the rest of the presentation rods. Wind speed is neither steady nor consistent. Now you do not have to ship the broken rod to Douglas. But the soft tip did earn the Paradigm the best score in Light Tippet Protection. You call in and they charge your credit card $100 but you get a brand new rod in 3-4 days. I felt that it gave me a little more feel and accuracy at 25 feet than did the LP+. Usually takes 2 weeks. Sage introduced their new Trout LL, which won the award for the best Freshwater Fly rod at the 2019 ICAST show. Luv it. Then we read (and note) the weight indicated by the scale. Over the years I’ve worked with G. Loomis, Sage, Scott, Winston, Tom Morgan Rodsmiths and Douglas in the design and testing of their rods. The wraps are a complementary dark green to match the blank and the epoxy coatings are very nicely done. The Fenwick Fenlite Streamflex is our pick for the best mid-priced rod. You've probably heard about graphite rod (or carbon fiber) and fiberglass rods... but if I had to guess, you've never heard of a new rod blank material called Graphene. Howard was here in Montana earlier this fall to show us some new designs he’s working on for 2021. $75 on recent rods within 10 years, $125 on classic older rods. This is one incredible rod! In the Presentation category, the NRX+ LP was amazing, but the Douglas Sky G and Helios 3F were not far behind. A #6 weight can easily handle 4 to … The finish is a bright medium olive, with darker brown wraps. Still, the best Power 5-weight Rods have enough power in the butt and mid-section to get the job done. Mid-priced rods, like the Fenwick Fenlite Streamflex at $339.95, the Beulah Guide Series II at $295.00 and the Douglas DXF at $395.00 all put in impressive performances in the Power Rods category. The G series is softer and much more of a medium-action rod, and many anglers that prefer a medium action have loved this rod. The Art & Business of Making Games. We’ve gotten to know the Zephrus well over the past few years and it has consistently been a great performing rod, winning our 2019 4-weight Shootout, and placing 3rd in our last 5-weight Shootout. Tracks well, and is giving me nice tight loops and good accuracy. Usually takes 2-4 weeks. This is a good example of a medium action rod. We have found that faster action rods with softer tips give you better feel, improved accuracy, and more delicate presentations, especially at closer distances. Guides start out with a hook keeper above the handle, a single SIC stripping guide and the rest hard chrome snake guides. If they can do that, the accuracy is almost always excellent. Standard cork rings are used and are as close to perfect as you’ll see, something we have come to expect with Hardy rods. The G Series uses spigot ferrules rather than the more standard slip over ferrule found on the Radian. The perfect line: S.A. Amplitude Trout in WF-5-F. I’m getting lots of feel and superb accuracy in close – better than any of the other presentation rods. Beulah has built an extremely light but strong fly rod with all of the “sweet” casting characteristics for which Beulah is known. Usually takes 4-6 weeks. Good feel and accuracy in close despite a heavier swing weight than the Zephrus. The gray anodized double up-locking skeleton reel seat uses nylon washers on the rings that give a very secure lock up. Once we did all the casting to compare the two rods, it was obvious that the SKY G was a lighter rod in swing weight, and performed better at short to medium distances, where we gave it perfect scores. Better than the Paradigm and G Series out long but the Helios 3F and Zephrus were definitely superior with more power and better tracking. We are continually impressed at how much rod building craftsmanship has improved over the years. In our Presentation Rod deflection chart, look at the Sage LL (in brown). When I first cast the new SKY G, I was amazed at how light and responsive the new Sky G was compared to the older version. In the past we have traced the outline of the rod with different colored Sharpies, but this year we just took a photo of each rod and then used different colors in Adobe Illustrator to trace the curve. These nickel-silver components are simply gorgeous. For broken rods that are not registered to the original owners, some companies are going to charge you $150 or more for repairs. Thomas and Thomas – $55 repair charges for the original owner, includes shipping. It is also important to keep the same tippet length, as well as the same size small yarn indicator we use on the end for visibility. My advice has always been if you can afford it, buy it and you’ll never regret it. Im located near Calgary but am willing to drive a bit to take a look at these rods before i pull the trigger. The action is very similar to the Zephrus and is one reason this rod performs so well. All you have to do is take your new rod out of the shipping box, put your broken rod back in the shipping box, tape the pre-printed label over the old shipping label and drop it off anywhere that picks up FedEx. The cork handle is Winston’s familiar cigar style, with the swell slightly forward of the middle. The Aetos is another good-looking rod, finished in a deep midnight blue with brown wraps that include some nice silver trim wraps on the butt section. Every single Scott rod has been handcrafted from scratch, right in our shop- for over 45 years - and that’s something we’re very, very proud of. On my own 5-weight rods, I’m normally using a 12-foot leader, with tippets from 4x to 6x, fishing dry flies. The blank color is then the natural graphite gray with chocolate brown wraps, trimmed with lighter brown and orange on the butt. The Presentation Rods are going to be used at shorter distances most of the time – roughly 25 feet to 45 feet, so the scores at 70 feet are not nearly as important as they are with the Power Rods. I gave it perfect scores at 25 feet and 45 feet, but at 70 feet it still turned in an impressive performance that wasn’t far off the best Power rods. Then we position the rod at approximately a 45 degree angle and use a lead weight of 3.9 oz., hung from the tip of the rod to show how the rod flexes. To read their comments, simply click on the blue bar under each person’s photo. The standard sized cork rings were not nearly as high quality as we saw on the Hardy Zephrus. As for reels, this year we again decided to use one of our all-time favorites, the Galvan Torque (T-5), loaded with 100 yards of 20 lb. On the other hand we have found the Asquith rods to be one of the toughest and most durable rods we’ve ever sold. I loved the light swing weight and the precise feel and accuracy the Sky G gave me. For Helios 3, new Recon (2020) and the new Clearwater rods, Orvis has introduced a new section replacement program with a 5-business day turnaround. Overall weight is certainly a factor, lighter being better, but the swing weight is far more important. Gusty wind was also a big problem, especially if the wind speed was above 10-15 mph. 2020 8-Weight Challenge, an abbreviated Shootout. We are trying to call it as we see it, in an unbiased manner. The Winston Alpha + proved to be too heavy and too stiff to be a good 5-weight. This would not be a pleasant rod to do a lot of false casting with, if you are fishing dry flies. The reel seat is pretty drab for a rod in this price range, utilizing an anodized black aluminum up-lock seat with a synthetic gray insert – no fancy wood here. I have given you my choices for the best Presentation 5-weight Rod and the best Power 5-weight Rod, but at the end of the day I know that anglers want an answer as to what are my choices would be for the best all-around 5-weight rods. Using the charts you can examine each rod and see how stiff it is compared to other rods and how much the tip bends. $75 handling fee. Why test with 12-foot leaders? Also, you shouldn’t have to double-haul at 45 feet to get the rod to perform. We usually set up the casting line so that the wind will be at our back and slightly off our left shoulder (we are all right handed casters). The epoxy coatings on the guide wraps are much better than we’ve seen previously from Sage. Again the slower action didn’t allow me to form the nice tight loops I was getting with the SKY G and LP+, and the accuracy suffered. Other repairs usually take 4-8 weeks. This new rod from G. Loomis was delightful to cast at all distances. The Zephrus is a product of another master rod designer, England’s Howard Croston. Rods with heavier swing weights and those with stiffer tips don’t fare nearly as well. The Paradigm is finished in a flat dark blue color, like the Avantt. He has been the #1 man on England’s International fly-fishing team multiple times. Rods are replaced, not repaired. The good-looking reel seat is silver anodized single up-lock design with a nylon locking ring that provided a secure lock-up. They also posses the backbone and power to handle multiple nymph rigs with indicators, which require a lot of mending. There is only one wide up-locking ring, with a nylon ring on the upper side, but it seems to lock up securely enough. The Power Rods in this Shootout that gave me the best long distance performance were the G. Loomis Asquith, the G. Loomis NRX+, the T & T Avantt, and the Scott Radian. I think the slower action and stiffer tip on the LL killed its chances to perform well. On big rivers, fishing nymphs at long range using an indicator is certainly possible with one of the power 5-weights, but many anglers would then shift to a 6-weight or even a 7-weight rod. If you like more medium action rods though, you will love the Paradigm. One of the biggest differences is how much lighter in swing weight the new SKY G is than the old NRX LP. The Amplitude Trout uses a longer head length of 69 feet and also a longer front taper of 10 feet, and handles more like a double taper line, being very easy to mend. No alignment dots are used, but Winston hand writes the serial number at the base of each section and on the butt. For these more powerful 5-weights, we tested them with the half size heavier Scientific Anglers Amplitude MPX lines, which are better at loading these stiffer rods. Our advice has always been to pick the best performing rod, even if it is a little more expensive than what you had planned. Video game industry news, developer blogs, and features delivered daily Platelets are like building blocks that are microscopic in size. I like the guide set-up, with a hook keeper above the handle, then one titanium SIC stripping guide, followed with the excellent single foot and flexible nickel/titanium guides similar to what Loomis uses on the NRX+ LP. The Douglas Sky G in the performance category is $795.00. We have found that trying to judge the accuracy and the ability of a given rod to form tight loops and track well is almost impossible if you have winds of more than 5-10 mph. At a price of $699.00, you are getting a ton of performance in a rod that is $100-$250 less than the most expensive Presentation Rods. The handle is a comfortable half wells and the diameter is just right. One-year warranty on hardware and guides. We got the idea for this category years ago from the Car and Driver automobile Shootouts. It is at the bottom of our presentation rods for a reason – it is not a pleasant rod to cast, and the performance at all distances were not good. The best Presentation Rods as well as the best power rods need to score 19.5 points or better here to be in contention for top honors. Douglas Outdoors. The Expeditor service fee for the Asquith rods is $250.00 for ground or $275 for 2-day air. After doing a lot of casting on several different days, we were almost always in general agreement on which were the top 4-6 rods in both the Presentation and Power categories. Accordingly, we have separated the tested rods into two categories, thus comparing each rod against others, which are best suited for the same fishing application, as follows: 1. Some people might consider high priced rods status symbols. Posted on January 19, 2021 by January 19, 2021 by Once Fred understood what we liked in a 5-weight rod he changed the mandrels around which the rod is formed, as well as making changes to the materials and resins used. This is another rod that is smooth and very well dampened. Click on any of the links below to explore our current offerings. It feels a lot like the new Douglas SKY G, but didn’t perform nearly as well. Kvepalai ir kosmetika internetu, odos ir plaukų priežiūros priemonės. The ability to throw very tight loops gives me surprisingly good accuracy out long. Nothing fancy here but at least there are alignment dots on the sections. Fortunately we have access to a good indoor facility at the Livingston Civic Center gym. To my way of thinking, the best Power Rods need to score best at 45 feet, but as you’ll see, there are several rods that scored very well at all distances. No handling fee. When used in the top half of the rod, this creates a thin diameter tip section with excellent swing weight, but more importantly helps the rod to recover and dampen quickly. G. Loomis – Lifetime warranty to original owner. Also, by having 8-10 rods set up, 2-3 testers can simultaneously do the casting in the same positions. Expensive rods do have that wow factor that will impress your fishing buddies. We kept the best rod in each category, high priced, medium priced, and inexpensive category, handy for comparison. I love how easily I can cast off the tip of the rod with a flick of my wrist. The more expensive rods in this Shootout like the Orvis Helios 3F and 3D are $100 more at $898.00. Often only subtle differences separate one rod from another. The old Sage original LL’s were terrific rods and I actually helped them re-design both the 8’9”#3 and the 9’#4 when they switched over from graphite 2 to graphite 3, many years ago. For the slightly stiffer power rods, we stepped up to Scientific Angler’s half line size heavier Amplitude MPX. Flawless adaptive streaming. Usually takes 2 weeks. Collectively, these three manufacturers have raised the bar for refinement in rods that can do much more than just cast. REC nickel titanium, flexible one foot guides are used the rest of the way. The lack of butt and mid-section power hurt a lot at long range. 2020 5 Weight Shootout » Yellowstone Angler - Best Five Weight … The quality of the cork in the handles varies enormously among fly rods. The Power 5-weights need to have the butt and mid-section power to launch larger and more wind resistant dries like hoppers or Chubby Chernobyl style stonefly patterns. The stiffer tip is not giving me any feel and the accuracy is terrible. The new G. Loomis NRX+ LP comes in 2nd followed closely by the Orvis Helios 3 and Hardy Zephrus. Usually takes 4-8 weeks. Larger yarn indicators with more wind resistance can really throw off the scoring. We love their Avantt, which you’ll find in our power rod category. Iron bow fly shop in Calgary sells Scott rods I have a couple radian rods in a 4 and 6 weight and really like them. With rods like the new SKY G and now the Beulah Platinum G2 using this new Graphene material to give us extremely light rods, I’m confident that we’ll see more rod builders using Graphene. There is no hook keeper. It is however, a handsome rod with superb craftsmanship that we have come to expect from Sage. Im located near Calgary but am willing to drive a bit to take a look at these rods before i pull the trigger. The G. Loomis Asquith was by far the lightest rod in the swing weight category and put in an impressive performance, especially at medium to long distances. The most expensive power rod, the G. Loomis Asquith is $1100.00 but it did clobber the other Power Rods in the Performance Only class. 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